The Scottoiler website suggests that they don't recommend the HCR (Touring kit) for the TDM 900. I notice a few people on this thread have them fitted, so wondered if anyone knows why it is supposedly not suitable please?
I had one on my Fazer with a dual injector and it was brilliant - 28k from original chain and sprockets (front one was I admit slightly thin !)
Cheers
Dave
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse to the trap gets the cheese !
I have a scottoiler fitted to my 2003 900 and its great.
It's been installed verticaly inside the left side tank fairing. Its easy to refill there and will give loads of extra life to your chain.
<!--quoteo(post=94146:date=Thu 14th Aug 2008, 12:02 AM:name=Fiasco)-->QUOTE(Fiasco @ Thu 14th Aug 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Hi
The Scottoiler website suggests that they don't recommend the HCR (Touring kit) for the TDM 900. I notice a few people on this thread have them fitted, so wondered if anyone knows why it is supposedly not suitable please?
I had one on my Fazer with a dual injector and it was brilliant - 28k from original chain and sprockets (front one was I admit slightly thin !)
Cheers
Dave<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dave,
It's just that the tail light lights up the HCR instead of the number plate, but there is enough scattered light for the plate to be visible at night.
Had mine on for over a year now and I ride 5 nights a week and not been stopped for it.
JFTR 35000 miles from my last chain.
Finally got round to fitting my Scottoiler with lube tube and dual injector today
Easier job than I expected, apart from getting my tubby fingers in to put the vacumn pipe and damper elbow on, thank goodness for the Mrs who bought me a cuppa at the right time (wrong for her!)
One tip, read the instructions properly and make sure you remove the lube tube syphon pipe from the RMV when priming the lube tube, I ended up covered in the blue stuff [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img]
I was going to fit the RMV inside the side panel as per the JBX tutorial but Datatool had got there before me. Managed to wedge it under the cross frame under the seat (as per Scottoiler PDF below), and added one of the plastic cam shaped collars to hold it in place. Works well as it points slightly down hill and allows easy access to the flow adjuster.
I see some posts on this thread about the oil to use in the Scottoiler. I'm using the Scottoiler oil until it runs out and then I'd like to switch to WD40 and see how it goes. I tried it in the Scottoiler that I installed on a KLR650 before I sold it recently, and found that it dripped too fast with the Scottoiler on its slowest setting. I changed back to the Scottoiler oil for the purpose of the sale but intend to follow up the idea on the TDM by reducing the outlet on the small tubing, perhaps just by crushing it, so that I can regulate the flow by the controller. The incentive to give WD40 a go was found in a very detailed article on the KLR650.net forum, which can be read on this link - http://members.cox.net/watt-man/WD40d.htm - which seems to make a lot of sense.
Cheers,
John R
<!--quoteo(post=109320:date=Sun 25th Jan 2009, 12:25 AM:name=Fiasco)-->QUOTE(Fiasco @ Sun 25th Jan 2009, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Finally got round to fitting my Scottoiler with lube tube and dual injector today
Easier job than I expected, apart from getting my tubby fingers in to put the vacumn pipe and damper elbow on, thank goodness for the Mrs who bought me a cuppa at the right time (wrong for her!)
One tip, read the instructions properly and make sure you remove the lube tube syphon pipe from the RMV when priming the lube tube, I ended up covered in the blue stuff [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img]
I was going to fit the RMV inside the side panel as per the JBX tutorial but Datatool had got there before me. Managed to wedge it under the cross frame under the seat (as per Scottoiler PDF below), and added one of the plastic cam shaped collars to hold it in place. Works well as it points slightly down hill and allows easy access to the flow adjuster.
<!--quoteo(post=117739:date=Fri 10th Apr 2009, 01:47 PM:name=John Robinson)-->QUOTE(John Robinson @ Fri 10th Apr 2009, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I see some posts on this thread about the oil to use in the Scottoiler. I'm using the Scottoiler oil until it runs out and then I'd like to switch to WD40 and see how it goes. I tried it in the Scottoiler that I installed on a KLR650 before I sold it recently, and found that it dripped too fast with the Scottoiler on its slowest setting. I changed back to the Scottoiler oil for the purpose of the sale but intend to follow up the idea on the TDM by reducing the outlet on the small tubing, perhaps just by crushing it, so that I can regulate the flow by the controller. The incentive to give WD40 a go was found in a very detailed article on the KLR650.net forum, which can be read on this link - http://members.cox.net/watt-man/WD40d.htm - which seems to make a lot of sense.
Cheers,
John R<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since it is a penetrant it can get behind the o-rings and strip out the grease. That said, if you use it and have no problems, then whose to argue [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img].
Maybe you could thicken the wd40 with scottoil to allow its use in the RMV.
Main task of (Scott)oilers is keeping the chain moist and O/X-rings clean and souple; the primary lubrication is down to the grease inside the chain. WD40 is a good cleaner but it seems a little (too) thin? Also: Can you buy WD40 as a plain fluid in a bottle? It seems a little tricky and expensive using it from a spray-can?
Anyway, I always the Scottoil. It seems a little expensive (around 10 quid / litre) but it's designed for its sole purpose, works really well, and in the grand scheme of biking-costs the price per mile is negligable.
Hello fruitcake & robelst,
thanks for the comments. I think the debate about the best chain lubricant will probably rage for as long as this forum exists, so I won't go over old ground. However I seem to glean from the feedback on this and other forums that because modern O-ring chains are lubricated from the inside for the life of the chain the only real purpose of any external lubricant is to keep the chain clean and the O-rings moist. So it seems to me that if I can restrict the Scottoiler outlet onto the chain so that I can regulate the flow, and if I can then reduce the flow to about 1 drop every 2 minutes it should be enough to achieve both objects without prejudicing the job that the O-rings do. I won't be trying the WD40 until I run out of Scottoil anyway, which will be a while yet. On price though, a 4 litre container only cost me about A$25, which surprised me in view of the cost of a spray can of the stuff, with the added advantage that it can be used for other things as well. So, if nothing else, get a 4 litre jug and a spray bottle to decant it into and you'll be miles ahead (excuse the pun!)
Regards,
John R
<!--quoteo(post=117852:date=Sat 11th Apr 2009, 11:18 AM:name=John Robinson)-->QUOTE(John Robinson @ Sat 11th Apr 2009, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Hello fruitcake & robelst,
thanks for the comments. I think the debate about the best chain lubricant will probably rage for as long as this forum exists, so I won't go over old ground. However I seem to glean from the feedback on this and other forums that because modern O-ring chains are lubricated from the inside for the life of the chain the only real purpose of any external lubricant is to keep the chain clean and the O-rings moist. So it seems to me that if I can restrict the Scottoiler outlet onto the chain so that I can regulate the flow, and if I can then reduce the flow to about 1 drop every 2 minutes it should be enough to achieve both objects without prejudicing the job that the O-rings do. I won't be trying the WD40 until I run out of Scottoil anyway, which will be a while yet. On price though, a 4 litre container only cost me about A$25, which surprised me in view of the cost of a spray can of the stuff, with the added advantage that it can be used for other things as well. So, if nothing else, get a 4 litre jug and a spray bottle to decant it into and you'll be miles ahead (excuse the pun!)
Regards,
John R<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
At that price it's worth a go. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
I have used WD40 before to clean chains from dirt and superfacial rust and it works very well. It drops straight off which is even better for cleaning but you may need to increase to drip interval. And put a warning sign at the back saying "lubrication in progress" [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
Some claim WD40 dissolves rubber but that's not my experience. After all, the grease they are supposed to keep in is probably based on the same "ingredients" and how much rubber is there really to be found in modern automotive "rubber" washers?
Just got back from a wettish ride to Reading to MPC, Oxford Road.
£70.00 lighter and home with a Mk 7 Scottoiler. Not a lot in the box for 70 squid [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]
<!--quoteo(post=117870:date=Sat 11th Apr 2009, 01:45 PM:name=CatsBum)-->QUOTE(CatsBum @ Sat 11th Apr 2009, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Just got back from a wettish ride to Reading to MPC, Oxford Road.
£70.00 lighter and home with a Mk 7 Scottoiler. Not a lot in the box for 70 squid [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]
Cup of tea and I'll let you know.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=117878:date=Sat 11th Apr 2009, 02:47 PM:name=CatsBum)-->QUOTE(CatsBum @ Sat 11th Apr 2009, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Of course not Paddy. Why would I think of that!
Thought I would do the spark plugs first, took 30 mins from start to wash hands. I'm ok with that.
Back here though, where's the vacuum pipe I need for the Scott?
I thank you<!--quoteo(post=117882:date=Sat 11th Apr 2009, 03:08 PM:name=Paddy900)-->QUOTE(Paddy900 @ Sat 11th Apr 2009, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I followed these instructions,Even a Paddy could follow them!!!!!http://jbx9.free.fr/tdm/index.php?page=SCOTTO<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Well thats a Bummer. JBX tells me that Hotmail and Tiscali address's are not allowed, thats all I have!!!
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