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Scottoiler - Guest - 12-06-2006
I am fed up with the messy rear wheel. The different chain lubricants that I have used over the years all leave most of the oil on the rim.
Most of all I would replace the chain for a belt drive, but I cannot find any conversion kit for the 900.
My questions are:
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?
Thanks for any feedback
/Nils
Scottoiler - alan - 12-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7565:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 12:26 PM:name=nils)-->QUOTE(nils @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I am fed up with the messy rear wheel. The different chain lubricants that I have used over the years all leave most of the oil on the rim.
Most of all I would replace the chain for a belt drive, but I cannot find any conversion kit for the 900.
My questions are:
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?
Thanks for any feedback
/Nils<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1=yes
2=no
3=no. only winter/spring when weather is colder or warmer
4=yes very
Scottoiler - Minty Hippo - 12-06-2006
In order:
- probably not
- in my experience, yes but I'm a klutz
- no, about every 300kms
- yes, amazingly, given my answers above.
The Scottoiler is definitely better than spray on lubricants, but it is not pefect. Its hard to get mine to deliver just the right amount, its usually too much or too little. But I've had several bikes with Scottoilers and the chains definitely last longer. Of the spray on types I reckon Castrol chain wax is pretty good, doesn't shift much, not in normal Scottish temperatures anyway.
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Scottoiler - mrgrumpy2 - 12-06-2006
My questions are:
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
<!--coloro:#3366FF--><!--/coloro-->if adjusted as temperature changes/when wet or dry<!--colorc-->
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o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
<!--coloro:#3366FF--><!--/coloro-->its a balance between wet looking chain and messy wheel<!--colorc-->
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o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
<!--coloro:#3366FF--><!--/coloro-->just have to look and chain and wheel when you remember<!--colorc-->
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o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?
<!--coloro:#3366FF--><!--/coloro-->yes<!--colorc-->
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i have the touring kit and dual injector. means longer between top up and i think better oiling of chain for less mess on the wheel.
even riding through all weathers i get more than 20k miles from a chain.
Scottoiler - TonyDevil - 12-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7565:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 12:26 PM:name=nils)-->QUOTE(nils @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->My questions are:
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yes, it actually did more to clean my bike than i have.
can be a little tricky, but patience is a virtue
only when the ambient temp or altitude changes significantly
yes, but i wish i'd got a mechanic to install it for me, coz i'm also a clutz
Scottoiler - Daveb - 12-06-2006
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
yes, wipes off easily
o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
no
o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
no only change setting during winter as oil gets thicker as temperature falls
o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?
very happy
Just noticed my answers are the same as Aytcat
are you thinking of fitting the touring version (fits behind number plate), easy to view oil level.
Scottoiler - sidestand - 12-06-2006
I think that the scottoiler is the dogs danglies for keeping the transmission in order.
The oil actually keeps the sprockets & chain clean, & there's minimal oil on yer wheel rim once it's set up right.
![[Image: good.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif)
The only thing I've found that's better is the shaft drive on me Beemer
![[Image: yahoo.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yahoo.gif)
Scottoiler - Guest - 12-06-2006
Thanks for the feedback!
<!--quoteo(post=7596:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 08:23 PM:name=Daveb)-->QUOTE(Daveb @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->are you thinking of fitting the touring version (fits behind number plate), easy to view oil level.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sounds like a good idea.
I read somewhere that some people go back to single injector after using dual for a while. Is it more difficult to adjust the oil flow when using dual injectors? What are the pros and cons?
Thanks again!
/Nils
Scottoiler - sidestand - 12-06-2006
The only problem with the dual injectors, is that the mechanism is more prone to slippage, so the injectors can touch the chain, which then burrs the ends & blocks them.
The single injector is much more solid & mounts to the side of the sprocket. It can be set more accurately, but relies on capilliary action to get the oil across the other side of the chain.
Having tried both, I prefer the single injector, but it's entirely personal choice, as both are effective .
Scottoiler - wicklamulla - 12-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7565:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 12:26 PM:name=nils)-->QUOTE(nils @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I am fed up with the messy rear wheel. The different chain lubricants that I have used over the years all leave most of the oil on the rim.
Most of all I would replace the chain for a belt drive, but I cannot find any conversion kit for the 900.
My questions are:
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?
Thanks for any feedback
/Nils<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nils have you contacted these people??? http://www.vh-motorradtechnik.de/index.php?content=34
Scottoiler - sidestand - 12-06-2006
Tanks Wicky,
Oi likes that belt drive Fazer
Scottoiler - wicklamulla - 12-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7635:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 10:52 PM:name=sidestand)-->QUOTE(sidestand @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Tanks Wicky,
<!--coloro:#CC0000--><!--/coloro-->Oi likes that belt drive Fazer
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oi cudn't have ritten dat better meself that belt drive Fazer look gr8 indeed.
Scottoiler - masterbrewer - 12-06-2006
G'Day from Oz
To stop oil on my rear rim I "borrowed" a plastic ie tupperware bowl or similar from the kitchen cupboard (silently
![[Image: unsure.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif)
)about the same diameter as the rear chain sprocket and deep enough to cover the chain.I then used approx a third of the bowl, bent up an aluminium angle bracket and bolted it to the chain tensioner nuts at the rear of the swing arm, pop rivetted the plastic to the bracket and bolted the top to the chain guard for easy wheel removal.
Works a treat.
![[Image: banana.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif)
Can even colour match the bowl to ya bike eh???
Will take a photo when the camera is repaired.
Cheers
![[Image: drinks.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drinks.gif)
Scottoiler - wicklamulla - 12-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7643:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:18 PM:name=masterbrewer)-->QUOTE(masterbrewer @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->G'Day from Oz
To stop oil on my rear rim I "borrowed" a plastic ie tupperware bowl or similar from the kitchen cupboard (silently
)about the same diameter as the rear chain sprocket and deep enough to cover the chain.I then used approx a third of the bowl, bent up an aluminium angle bracket and bolted it to the chain tensioner nuts at the rear of the swing arm, pop rivetted the plastic to the bracket and bolted the top to the chain guard for easy wheel removal.
Works a treat.
Can even colour match the bowl to ya bike eh???
Will take a photo when the camera is repaired.
Cheers
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->ahhhh s'funny i was tinking of doin just that
Scottoiler - sidestand - 12-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7645:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:20 PM:name=wicklamulla)-->QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->ahhhh s'funny i was tinking of doin just that
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->An' den yer jes need a poipe from der tupperware bowl to yer oil filler cap - yes could save yersen hours every week, Wicky
Scottoiler - wicklamulla - 12-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7651:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:28 PM:name=sidestand)-->QUOTE(sidestand @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->An' den yer jes need a poipe from der tupperware bowl to yer oil filler cap - yes could save yersen hours every week, Wicky
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->u feckin mindreader
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Scottoiler - Guest - 13-06-2006
<!--quoteo(post=7630:date=Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:46 PM:name=wicklamulla)-->QUOTE(wicklamulla @ Mon 12th Jun 2006, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Nils have you contacted these people??? http://www.vh-motorradtechnik.de/index.php?content=34<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I have sent them a question twice, without any response
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Maybe I should try to write in German?/Nils
Scottoiler - beeble-tdm9 - 13-06-2006
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
Whatever you use... there will always be some fling.
o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
I think the Scottoilers probably put a lot more oil on than the chain actually needs.
o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
No.
o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?
Extremely. You pay ~£70 open the box... and think is that all it is... lol. But then when you've seen it working and you can see how clean and wet your chain is it's worth every penny.
If they reckon that the chains will last about 20K miles with a Scotty.... then it's not worth having a belt drive is it?
Scottoiler - Andy R - 13-06-2006
o Will a Scottoiler leave less oil residue on the rim?
<b>Most definitely</b>
o Is it difficult to set up the Scottoiler for rigth amount of oil?
<b>No. The mechanic who fitted it for me told me that if you have oil on your tyre it is set too high. If the chain is dry it is set too low.</b>
o Do you have to tweek these settings every 100 kms?
<b>No. </b>
o Are you all happy with your Scottoiler?
<b>Really happy. The chain is clean and damp with oil all the time now. </b>
Scottoiler - Guest - 13-06-2006
19000 miles from my chain so far and the rear sprocket is hardly worn. I've ridden all year round, though tend to avoid wet days if I can - but it has been subject to winter road crud etc.
Am I happy with the Scotoiler? Yep