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I'm heading off to the deep unknown again, eastwards this time, and need some maps for Germany Poland, Hungary, etc. I find Google maps a bit crap tbh. Not enough detail. I'd like maps of Michelin standard if pos.


I'd use Navigon on my mobile but when on my phone gets too hot and it drains faster than it charges. Wileyfox, never again.
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Have you tried Tomtom go on yer mobile? It's pretty good and doesn't drain my battery too quickly.
The Garmin mobile app does reasonable navigation but despite downloading the maps won't run without a data connection, which seems pretty pointless.

 

Roaming in Europe is now included in your contract so check which countries are actually included.

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Have you tried the Rever app? I use it for route planning and ride tracking
I use Sygic on my iPhone - hasn't given me any problems.
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May I inject kurviger pro into the discussion? You can switch from online to offline maps, plan your rote on the pc and import into the app via QR code, lots of bike specific settings. If you search for an address on the road it needs an internet connection, but the amount of data is minimal.

It is available in English, French, and German and works more or less worldwide. Personally I like it and it is only 7€ in the google play store.

The website can be used to plan routes and export into other formats as well:

https://kurviger.de/en
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Lots look into. Kurviger looks promising.
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More for the thought pot....

 

Navigator Free - the whole world offline for free - download the areas you want e.g. Europe or just individual countries - lots of POIs. NavFree has served me well for years. Works on WinCe, Windaz, Android & WinMobile

 

Gotta sayI prefer Google Maps in major cities as it is much more accurate than e.g. IGO.

 

Here WeGo is another offline old favourite (when it was a Nokia App and just called Here), don't know if it has fallen by the wayside or not.

 

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I've got unlimited data when I travel, that's not the problem. It's this bleedin mobile I got, it's just pants with battery life and drain when on charge. Will use my crappy old Garmin Nuvi to point me in the right direction around cities and use Kurviger, which looks excellent for my general route planner. I'm downloading Navigator Free as we speak to give that a mosy. I do prefer to orientate myself with maps over GPS though. It also encourages bum and wrist breaks. 

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Have a look at Motogoloco Muddy, it's pretty good for route planning and you can either save your route online and/or download the route in a variety of different formats.  https://www.motogoloco.com/map/
Just looked up on the Navigon 'draining while charging' problem and it seems it's not Navigon but heat. Mobiles phone batteries don't charge too well if they're running too hot. That makes sense because I was using it under the map cover on my tank bag in Spain and Portugal in a heat wave. 

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I'm sat at Calais returning from the Belgian GP. My daughters Garmin satnav is 2 years old but the continental maps must have been 10 years out of date because at one point it showed us driving across a field when the road we were actually on wasn't brand new.


So then I switched to Google maps and with it's live update function it showed where the traffic was....and it's been great all the way back too.
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Might not just be your mobile Muddy. I have a motorola Nexus 6. Lasts quite happily for 2-3 days with data, location and wifi on. Run a satnav app and I can' keep it charged, will die in a couple of hours from full charge, while being charged via usb. 

 

+1 for here we go

If you happen to have a Galaxy S5............

 

I use my Samsung Galaxy S5 for satnav/phone and had battery overheat + struggle to keep enough charge problem. I stopped using a usb type C and switched to using a usb 3 type B which for some reason seems to have cured the problem (obviously you need a usb 3 type B connector on your phone (not many have)). Phone charge goes from almost dead to full charge in around 60 miles with satnav in use Smile

No charge/heat problems on a recent euro tour.
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Make sure your charger output is high enough. 1 or 1.5 amps just don't do it anymore. Used to. I got a 2 amp output charger topping up my S6 in no time whilst running Copilot (maps are on the phone here, too). Also use a lead as short as you get away with.

No overheating.


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Agree with Muppdog, i use a 2amp charger, Galaxy s4 and copilot, keeps charge up all day long. Only had a problem with it not charging once which turned out to be the charger itself..

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A cyclist friend of mine recommended OsmAnd, which I've briefly tried on my phone to good effect.  Can't comment on the battery drain issue (not used it long enough but I've certainly been a victim of it myself with Google Maps and NavMii) but it seems to run nicely, with the added advantage that you can import .GPX files into it for route planning. https://play.google.com/store/apps/detai...net.osmand

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I'll check that I've got 2 amps (thought it was 1 and 2 amps dual) also ordered a type b lead

I used here maps (with offline maps) all around Europe on several occasions and it works great.

I ride with the earphones connected to the phone listening to music at the same time and it gives speech indications so clearly I no longer look at the phone, I actually kept it in my pocket the last Euro-trip, instead of keeping the phone on the handlebars mount, and rarely had problems.

Riding with the screen of allowed me to ride the whole day without charging the phone.

I have a 4000 mAh battery in the phone, but after riding even 1000 km arrived with around 30% battery. Riding with the screen turned on, and mounted on the handlebars with the sun heating the phone the battery lasted around 3-4 hours, so I usually kept the phone connected to the charger when riding with the screen on no matter what app I was using.

Google maps is horrible, it changes the route while riding to many times, and not in the good way.

Quote:I used here maps (with offline maps) all around Europe on several occasions and it works great.
I ride with the earphones connected to the phone listening to music at the same time and it gives speech indications so clearly I no longer look at the phone,
What maps?
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