Review - Bluetooth 4.0 Sport Headset Earbuds Stereo Headphone Earphone For Iphone Android

[Latestarter]

Just thought id put this up, I was looking to use my iPhone 6 as a satnav on the bike after knocking up this mount for my Biologic mobile holder. I looked over the idea of installing a Bluetooth phones in the helmet and on trying, they hurt my ears.


 

Anyway, I bought a pair of these for less than a chinky meal and boy how good are they, these fit really nice in the ear and are as clear as day. I like to wear earplugs when riding and these fit perfect and no interference with the helmet, ears and best of all no discomfort!


 

Have done a small road test but will really try them out next week when I rock up to the Fettle day :-)


 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161996990896?_...EBIDX%3AIT


 

Best of all these only cost me £6.89 delivered!


 

[ProudViking]

I like the 29p postage!

[jono49]

I like Senna SMH10.....modern technology :good:

[Latestarter]

I like Senna SMH10.....modern technology :good:

I've got no interest in using a phone when riding jono49, just want to hear the directions from GPS on the mobile... and the obvious one the price difference, a Senna comes out around £140-150 against the £7 for one of these. Also I've not got room in my helmet to fit one comfortably mate.

This post was last modified: 12-03-2016, 11:43 PM by Latestarter.

[jono49]

It bluetooth's to anything even sat-nav :good:

[Latestarter]

It bluetooth's to anything even sat-nav :good:

 

[steve27bha]

So, will this £7 thingie work as a rider-pillion intercom from a full BT set in the rider's helmet?

 

If not full two-way, will it do rider to pillion?

 

And if Yes, will the range depend on the rider's BT range (since this unit is only claimed as 10 metres range)?

 

My interest is for use by an IAM Observer with a full BT set and the Associate using one of these but only to receive messages.

 

If my basic understanding of Bluetooth and its abilities is faulty, please say so.

This post was last modified: 29-03-2016, 09:01 PM by steve27bha.

[alanfavell]

Other than foam noise reducing earplugs, I've found earbud/in-ear to be a pain in the ®ear on journeys over a couple of hours (although I used em for years),. Wired earbuds would be a bit of a PITA to get yer helmet on without pulling one out (er), unless one was wearing an under-helmet thingy. Some bluetooth gear would disconnect on fuel stops and have to be manually reconnected. 

 

Bought a SMH10 as recommended by Dablik - no woes (other than the price), disconnects at fueling but auto reconnects too. I don't use it for phone calls (reject or don't answer), or as an intercom (yet), purely sat nav instructions  :good:

 

 

PS  SO has £7 bluetooth earbuds and thinks they're great.

[steve27bha]

.....
 

PS  SO has £7 bluetooth earbuds and thinks they're great.

So, can SO or you answer some of my questions?

Please.

[ChrisG]

It would likely depend on the BT system used by the rider, it would need to pair with the headphones and many will be set up to only pair with another unit the same.  I'd find someone with a bluetooth intercom and see if they are able to pair it with their car hands free or a BT headset, rather than approaching from the headset side.

[alanfavell]

In bonny Belgium at the mo. Will test with SMH10 as soon as I get the chance over the next few weeks.

[RogerD]

Just my 5cents....

The design is Chinese I would think, but the chip technology is pretty recent. It should do the music and phone stuff pretty well 

The CSR8635  is a low cost part that was designed as a BT Speaker solution, with a single mic (no wind noise noise reduction) so think what you can do with a speaker and you will  not go far wrong.

The apt-X codec claim is wrong...the 8635 does not support that, they would need to use the CSR8645.

Bike to Bike....nope, and they will not have the range beyond about 10m to connet to an audio source,they are not class 1.

Rider to pillion...nope

The Bike specific headsets use a more flexible solution (typically the DSP/FLASH memory part CSR8670) which not only does more in terms of connectivity and functionality, but costs more, as does ensuring a waterproof product.

Horses for courses, as usual.

This post was last modified: 04-04-2016, 08:13 AM by RogerD.

[steve27bha]

RogerD,

Thank you for the info.. It appears my concept of BT is wrong.

I understand that a Class 1 can only work two-way at short range, but I anticipated that, once paired and "tuned in" to the other unit, it would be able to receive stuff "broadcast" from a more powerful/longer range/higher Class BT unit such as a rider set, and thus allow 1-way rider to rider.

Not being able to interact - even if only to receive - with a BT rider headset at close range (ie rider to pillion) seems odd though. Do the different Classes use different "languages"?

Is there an Idiots' Guide to this technical stuff you can point me at?

Thank you for your reply,

steve

This post was last modified: 04-04-2016, 03:46 PM by steve27bha.

[RogerD]

RogerD,

Thank you for the info.. It appears my concept of BT is wrong.

I understand that a Class 1 can only work two-way at short range, but I anticipated that, once paired and "tuned in" to the other unit, it would be able to receive stuff "broadcast" from a more powerful/longer range/higher Class BT unit such as a rider set, and thus allow 1-way rider to rider.

Not being able to interact - even if only to receive - with a BT rider headset at close range (ie rider to pillion) seems odd though. Do the different Classes use different "languages"?

Is there an Idiots' Guide to this technical stuff you can point me at?

Thank you for your reply,

steve

Class 1 is actually the output power class and hence the majority of headsets are not class 1.

Class Number   Max Output Power (dBm)   Max Output Power (mW)        Max Range

    Class 1                    20 dBm                                     100 mW                           100 m

     Class 2                     4 dBm                                       2.5 mW                            10 m

     Class 3                     0 dBm                                         1 mW                             10 cm

 
I think that in theory the possibility of the scenario you mention is there however there are many other "support functions" ongoing in the background that it may not work in one direction in practice. I would need to check. It is not a different language (BT spec is very closely defined) but the pairing process may prevent a one way communication...I have never been asked that before as its really not something a user would be expected to want!  

As for the guide...take a look here:  https://www.bluetooth.com/what-is-blueto...ogy-basics

 

There is more detail if you need it around the web site.

 

Also take a look here   https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/bluetooth-basics   

 

For the CSR8635...look here   http://www.csr.com/products/csr8635       and the CSR.com website includes lots more info if you want to wade through it.

This post was last modified: 04-04-2016, 09:46 PM by RogerD.

[RogerD]

Having checked with someone with more tech knowledge than me, I have had confirmation that the range will be limited to the lower power ( class) device.

So a class 1 will talk to a class 2, as I thought, but beyond the reach of the lower class device neither would communicate.

[danielcarway]

On a side note, I can never get on with standard earbuds, so with a sharp knife and a small hole punch I modify standard earplugs to fit on the earbuds.  Lovely comfy fit.

https://goo.gl/photos/MZzxoKerkbG1TzeF9

[dablik]

Good idea Daniel, going to knick it  :good:

[Latestarter]

On a side note, I can never get on with standard earbuds, so with a sharp knife and a small hole punch I modify standard earplugs to fit on the earbuds.  Lovely comfy fit.

https://goo.gl/photos/MZzxoKerkbG1TzeF9

 

Now that's a bloody great idea... Thanks for that Captain :good:

[danielcarway]

Good idea Daniel, going to knick it  :good:

Just like I did in the first place.  The tricky bit is the hole punching - Mrs Slow has a spring-loaded paper punch that does the job, You have to cut to length, then let them return to shape before squishing flat to punch the hole.  Don't be tempted to melt the hole with a soldering iron though unless you really like evil-smelling, probably carcinogenic smoke.

[Latestarter]

I did not look into this to much, when looking for headphones. All I wanted was to get instructions from the phone satnav. Not interested in using a phone when riding as I’m too busy kicking sports bike rider’s asses through those twisty bends