Moto Morini's take on the TDM

[duibhceK]

It's still a prototype and currently goes by the name "MM3".

* 1187cc V-twin with probably +- 125bhp
* verlicchi frame
* designed by Marabese
* ride by wire throttle control
* ABS
* traction control



what do you guys think?

just noticed this has already been posted in the Guzzi topic...

sorry 'bout that

[bof69]

When I crashed the 900 and heard the frame was damaged(did'nt know how bad then) the first thoughts I had was to modify a TRX frame and put TDM panels onto it. It would have been quite similar I think.

[baron]

Very similar looks I'd say, just a bit more trick stuff added, but is it really necessary....fashion I'd say. Just goes to show how far ahead of the game Yamaha were when they first brought the TDM out. Top marks to Yamaha, they must feel very flattered with all this copying going on

[steveglover]

I wonder what will last the longest, the company (Moto Morini) or the exhaust system.

[Cavey]

MCN mention this bike. I like the look of it.

[robelst]

Impressive, I like it already. Look how that beautiful V-twin is prominently on display, you don't see that often anymore. And none of all that designer overkill, like on the horrendous Benelli Tornado. Very stylish

Not sure if it'd make the ideal every-day bike the TDM is, though. But nice for Sundays, surely

[dbninja]

nice bike!

is it a TDM? nah far too fragile lookin

is it a 1200GS well lets see how it would hold up doing some major off-roading!

MCN talkin BOLLIX again

dbninja

[viper_biker]

Not my kinda thing, whatever floats your boat. Also, you can't put the TDM and a 1200GS in the same category, both bikes are worlds apart (and the price tag tell that). Don't get me wrong, I have a great fondness for my TDM but it would be traded for a BMW at the drop of a hat if I could afford one, and I look at my bike as a middle-weight bike. In the same category as a 600 Hornet or SV650 only a lot more comfortable than either of the afore mentioned bikes and also more versatile but definately not a GS or KTM, or any other of those type of bikec, contender.

[AL-58]

<!--quoteo(post=22921:date=Sun 26th Nov 2006, 04:46 AM:name=dbninja)-->QUOTE(dbninja @ Sun 26th Nov 2006, 04:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->nice bike!

is it a TDM? nah far too fragile lookin

is it a 1200GS well lets see how it would hold up doing some major off-roading!

MCN talkin BOLLIX again

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Cant be a serious competitor to the GS with Alloy wheels. At least not at this end of the world.

Al

[robelst]

<!--quoteo(post=22928:date=Sat 25th Nov 2006, 07:31 PM:name=viper_biker)-->QUOTE(viper_biker @ Sat 25th Nov 2006, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Not my kinda thing, whatever floats your boat. Also, you can't put the TDM and a 1200GS in the same category, both bikes are worlds apart (and the price tag tell that). Don't get me wrong, I have a great fondness for my TDM but it would be traded for a BMW at the drop of a hat if I could afford one, and I look at my bike as a middle-weight bike. In the same category as a 600 Hornet or SV650 only a lot more comfortable than either of the afore mentioned bikes and also more versatile but definately not a GS or KTM, or any other of those type of bikec, contender.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have owned 8 BMWs in 19 years (including a R1150GS) and I can assure you a TDM isn't such a bad bike at all. I still like the original and useful concepts BMW comes up with from time to time, but I kept having problems with the fragile transmission on the 4 valve boxers(gearbox/clutch/shaftdrive and the oil-seals between these components), and finish / winter-resistance is no longer a BMW stronghold either so that was the reason to go look somewhere else. I quite like the F800 range (I suspect the engine might be less prone to transmission problems), see if BMW brings out a GS version. But there's a good chance I hang on to the TDM a bit longer, and try finding an old R80GS to work on

<!--quoteo(post=22939:date=Sun 26th Nov 2006, 12:14 AM:name=AL-58)-->QUOTE(AL-58 @ Sun 26th Nov 2006, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Cant be a serious competitor to the GS with Alloy wheels. At least not at this end of the world.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The R1200GS has alloy wheels as standard as well these days

This post was last modified: 26-11-2006, 03:32 PM by robelst.

[tdm850rider]

<!--quoteo(post=22900:date=Sat 25th Nov 2006, 09:23 AM:name=duibhce Kaelann)-->QUOTE(duibhce Kaelann @ Sat 25th Nov 2006, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's still a prototype and currently goes by the name "MM3".

* 1187cc V-twin with probably +- 125bhp
* verlicchi frame
* designed by Marabese
* ride by wire throttle control
* ABS
* traction control

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* 1187cc V-twin with probably +- 125bhp
* verlicchi frame
* designed by Marabese
* ride by wire throttle control Hate to see a wiring problem in that!
* ABS Not an off-roader so don't need a disable switch.
* traction control ABSolutely
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Is it an illusion or do you need to be 7 foot tall to touch the ground?

[robelst]

<!--quoteo(post=23007:date=Sun 26th Nov 2006, 06:23 PM:name=tdm850rider)-->QUOTE(tdm850rider @ Sun 26th Nov 2006, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Is it an illusion or do you need to be 7 foot tall to touch the ground?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where did think the railing on that plateau is for? It comes standard with the bike

[AL-58]

<!--quoteo(post=22976:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:14 AM:name=robelst)-->QUOTE(robelst @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I quite like the F800 range (I suspect the engine might be less prone to transmission problems), see if BMW brings out a GS version. But there's a good chance I hang on to the TDM a bit longer, and try finding an old R80GS to work on
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The wire wheels are available as a no cost option on the 1200GS in Australia as the alloys are crap (they just bend) on rougher dirt roads that people do ride them on.

I've seen somewhere that BMW have confirmed they will offer a GS type F800, but no target date. If it has serious dirt usabilty it would be tempting.

Pre Paralever R80G/S was the pick of the bunch, every GS since has had some mechanical weakness.

Al

[Guest]

<!--quoteo(post=23020:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 12:54 AM:name=AL-58)-->QUOTE(AL-58 @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The wire wheels are available as a no cost option on the 1200GS in Australia<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Also in Ireland, me Da has 'em on his

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He has one of these too, he's currently looking for a big touring tank for it, if anyone knows of one? BMW want £600 for an unpainted new one.

[wicklamulla]

i like the Moto Morini, but i wouldn't buy one initially if i could only afford and need 1 bike fer all my needs as it is not "proven" yet in terms of reliability, spares back up etc tec. the engine just looks so big and heavy though ! it totally dominated the picture.

[Guest]

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It gorgeous isn't it

[zuma]

Great looking bike, except for that exhaust, yukk! And oh I hate underseat exhausts.

[nhstedium]

<!--quoteo(post=22900:date=Sat 25th Nov 2006, 03:23 PM:name=duibhce Kaelann)-->QUOTE(duibhce Kaelann @ Sat 25th Nov 2006, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's still a prototype and currently goes by the name "MM3".

* 1187cc V-twin with probably +- 125bhp
* verlicchi frame
* designed by Marabese
* ride by wire throttle control
* ABS
* traction control



what do you guys think?

just noticed this has already been posted in the Guzzi topic...

sorry 'bout that

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NO NO NO , THE STYLING IS ALL WRONG - looks like an early pegaso on steroids , & I'm bloody sick of underseat exhausts

This post was last modified: 04-12-2006, 06:33 PM by nhstedium.

[robelst]

Loads of engine, low on gimmicks: It reminds me why I bought my first Buell in 1997

I am not a fan of underseat exhausts either, but it's got to be high-up on this kind of bike so they might as well put it there. If you ever tried fitting panniers on an all-road bike without making it as wide as a family-sedan, underseat pipes with a well-isolated cover might not be such a crazy idea after all

[zuma]

Umm, why do they have to be high up on this kind of bike?

Point taken re panniers, but if you wish to strap luggage to the seat, carry a pillion, or fit a rear rack (luggage for the carrying of) problems usually emerge. I'm just a practical old function before form type of guy, guess that's why I ride a TDM, but all underseat exhaust equipped bikes seem to have an ugly plumbers nightmare of pipes leading to the mufflers, as with the Morini. Fit 'em all under the bike like with the Buell and ER6 I say.