I believe saddles/seats are another of those topics that are totally subjective⦠like oil or tyres.
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If weâre just talking about arse comfort I find the standard 9er seat alright. For me, itâs back ache that calls time after an hour and a half. The first Mk1 I had way back when was also pretty comfortable for 100 miles or so when, again, back ache became the limiting factor.
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Iâve come to realise that, in my case, the riding position - the relationship between the handle bars, foot pegs and seat - is far more important than the seat itself.
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My KTMâs seat is rock hard but, strangely, very comfortable and the ergonomics are far better for my back than the 9er.
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Same with the Buell (now sold). A rock hard seat but very comfortable over distance and great ergonomics.
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Iâm keeping the TDM though :good: as Mrs James prefers the pillion ergoâs and I still like to ride it too. The Yam engine is quieter, smoother and the whole thing is more refined. The KTM is a bit more of an animal :badgerrock:
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I first tried an Airhawk on my Africa Twin about 20 years ago, and that was after spending a lot of wonga on a custom seat job. Neither made any real difference to my riding range.Â
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On longer hauls I still tend to stop and stretch after an hour or so, particularly if Iâm on Motorwayâs, Peage, etc. if only to relieve the boredom.
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If weâre just talking about arse comfort I find the standard 9er seat alright. For me, itâs back ache that calls time after an hour and a half. The first Mk1 I had way back when was also pretty comfortable for 100 miles or so when, again, back ache became the limiting factor.
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Iâve come to realise that, in my case, the riding position - the relationship between the handle bars, foot pegs and seat - is far more important than the seat itself.
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My KTMâs seat is rock hard but, strangely, very comfortable and the ergonomics are far better for my back than the 9er.
![[Image: 52671182886_909ae9c20b_c.jpg]](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52671182886_909ae9c20b_c.jpg)
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Same with the Buell (now sold). A rock hard seat but very comfortable over distance and great ergonomics.
![[Image: 50986105077_07ca315fb1_c.jpg]](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50986105077_07ca315fb1_c.jpg)
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Iâm keeping the TDM though :good: as Mrs James prefers the pillion ergoâs and I still like to ride it too. The Yam engine is quieter, smoother and the whole thing is more refined. The KTM is a bit more of an animal :badgerrock:
![[Image: 26531921196_d19150b911_c.jpg]](https://live.staticflickr.com/1612/26531921196_d19150b911_c.jpg)
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I first tried an Airhawk on my Africa Twin about 20 years ago, and that was after spending a lot of wonga on a custom seat job. Neither made any real difference to my riding range.Â
![[Image: 3038831642_d6867e1004_c.jpg]](https://live.staticflickr.com/3276/3038831642_d6867e1004_c.jpg)
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On longer hauls I still tend to stop and stretch after an hour or so, particularly if Iâm on Motorwayâs, Peage, etc. if only to relieve the boredom.
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04 TDM900Â :good:
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