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Chain Care - peronne - 10-03-2017

Ok I give up. I've tried everything & just about every chain lube. The feckin things just keep on rusting.

What do you all do with yours.

Do you clean it after every wash, ride ,when its been out in the rain or once a month.

What do you use. Only thing I haven't tried is goose fat.

Please help. I'm at my wits end. :rant: 

Danresh or anyone living in California or anywhere warm and dry please ignore this post.

I'm depressed enough Sad 



Chain Care - dapleb - 10-03-2017

Scotoiler yamSam?

Chain Care - Studley Ramrod - 10-03-2017

Got mine covered in salt after a ride out on a cold damp day and despite washing it down it started to rust.  I ended up removing it and quickly cleaned it with a medium toothbrush in diesel which removed the rust, then I washed it in soapy water, rinsed it and then dried it out on the radiator top. Smile  After that I smothered it in scottoil and left it hanging for a while before wiping off the excess.  Came up a treat, yet to see if it's damaged the o rings but had nothing to lose trying it.

 

If that doesn't work, try moving away from Cumbria. Wink


Chain Care - IainK - 10-03-2017

Used Silkolene Titanium dri gel last year, sticks like glue, not sure if it would have stopped rust, found it a bit of a faf, so bought a second hand scottoiler from eBay, fitted in 30 mins, bobs your uncle.


Not as messy (or easier to clean)


Iain

Chain Care - Matlock - 10-03-2017

Scottoiler, Mr Henty's dual feed oil dispenser. In winter set the Scottoiler to maximum and even then be prepared to brush some oil on when things get really salty. Don't worry about the side plates getting a bit rusty. I've had chains rustier than Ginger Spice's pubes and they've gone on for 1000s more miles after a bit of a brush with some old engine oil, as long as you catch it quickly after the rust appears. I think the O rings do a very good job of sealing the important stuff from the elements.



Chain Care - drewpy - 10-03-2017

I'm going to try this

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb01cxFS1bw



Chain Care - erdferkel - 10-03-2017

Ballistol, for over 20 years now Wink

Not saying it is the best or anybody else should use it. Got the tip from an more experienced biker and happy with it. My chains last about 50.000km, but it is a bit more care intensive.

I run the chain through an oiled rag and then respray with ballistol after nearly each ride, In my opinion the big advantage is that Ballistol is not sticky and thus does not create a grinding paste with dust and sticky chain lube. It does not harm o-rings and is even allowed to be used in food processing machines, so no severe impact on the environment, if the chain slings some drops off.

And I can use it for leather treatment and a million other purposes.

But this ist just my personal preference. YMMV and so on ;D

Glückauf

Ralf



Chain Care - drewpy - 10-03-2017

Quote:Ballistol, for over 20 years now Wink

Not saying it is the best or anybody else should use it. Got the tip from an more experienced biker and happy with it. My chains last about 50.000km, but it is a bit more care intensive.

I run the chain through an oiled rag and then respray with ballistol after nearly each ride, In my opinion the big advantage is that Ballistol is not sticky and thus does not create a grinding paste with dust and sticky chain lube. It does not harm o-rings and is even allowed to be used in food processing machines, so no severe impact on the environment, if the chain slings some drops off.

And I can use it for leather treatment and a million other purposes.

But this ist just my personal preference. YMMV and so on ;D

Glückauf

Ralf
just checked that out and its liquid parafin.

Maybe cheaper to get that in bulk than pay for Balistoll


Chain Care - daveRapide - 10-03-2017

Scottoilers are excellent - I had one on a Bonneville and the chain did 20,000 miles. On my TDM (and my Vincent) I have got a Tutoro Auto. https://www.tutorochainoiler.com/These don't seem to be as well known as Scottoilers, but are cheaper and easier to fit, and work just as well. They are gravity fed, with a clever little valve that lets oil through when the bike is moving - no need to tap into vacuum like a Scottoiler. You control the flow rate with a little wheel. I use Scottoil in mine, but have also used chainsaw oil and old engine oil.

Chain Care - jbx - 10-03-2017

Stottoiler is great, but I don't use it - I'm not very comfortable with vacuum-driven devices.

i put gearbox oil (80w) on the chain every 5-800km with a brush.

This is a very sticky oil.

I rarely ride when it's wet (not weather related...).

My rear transmission is still oem (75.000km).



Chain Care - marko67 - 10-03-2017

So, Ginger Spice's rusty pubes. Are they lacking lubrication or have they been left out in the rain? Would a Scott oiler, with the vacuum tube stuck into her ear, help with lubrication when she is being ridden in bad weather?

 

Strange thoughts to start my day.



Chain Care - peronne - 11-03-2017

Thanks everyone. I did try  a 2nd hand Tutoro a few years ago but it either never fed or dumped the lot over a short ride.

I may have been using wrong oil.

I will research them again Dave.

I will also explore the fascinating world of Scottoiler. When I met Paddy a few years ago the first thing I spotted was his superbly lubricated Scottoiled chain but I need to keep the pennies low. I'm spending far too much on bikes.

 

I still don't like the idea of oil dripping near my back wheel though. Ive spent 45 years trying to keep the stuff in Lol

 

Ok been on the Scottoilio site & some of them are very expensive. Cant access the Tutoro site. He must be working on it.

I have just wiped the Kawasaki links with a rag soaked in ACF50 and liberally applied S Doc chain lube.

The bike has to be used all next week for work & the weather forecast is shit rain so if by next fri the chain is ok I will continue doing this once a week. If its rusty I will get the VLube Scott at 99 English pounds.



Chain Care - peronne - 11-03-2017

Quote:I'm going to try this

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb01cxFS1bw
 

Don't think I could use this. I think I have a touch of OCD & I would have to get off the bike to see if it pumped oil every time I pressed the button.


Chain Care - celticbiker - 11-03-2017

I use a scott oiler and Muck off endurance chain lube through the winter and just the scottie in the summer.

I do find that the gold + gold chain resists rusting much better than the black ones and I only ever use DID chains too as they might be expensive but the longevity (40000 miles) means you (most people) would only ever need to buy one.

The other side of it is that I ride every day so the rust doesn't have time to set in, that said, I've not had this problem over a 3 week Christmas lay off either.



Chain Care - Muppdog - 11-03-2017

Scottoiler vacuum driven? Not according to SO. They are gravity fed and flow is controlled by vacuum. Not sure about the E-version. That is why some work better than others on the same bikes depending on positioning, I guess.


Rob

Chain Care - dmmsta - 11-03-2017

Quote:Scottoiler vacuum driven? Not according to SO. They are gravity fed and flow is controlled by vacuum. Not sure about the E-version. That is why some work better than others on the same bikes depending on positioning, I guess.


Rob
Not sure which bit you're reading.

This is the comparison page of their two systems:

https://www.scottoiler.com/uk/esystem/compare.html


Chain Care - Muppdog - 12-03-2017

I read the 'How it works' section. On the V-System anyway.

After now reading up the E-System I know it has an electronic pump. Could have guessed that, really.

 

Rob


Chain Care - dmmsta - 12-03-2017

vSystem is the vac one as you guessed.

There's actually a easy vac pickup from the throttle body.

 

eSystem is far too much money for the benefits it brings.


Chain Care - TKH - 12-03-2017

I just drown mine in old engine oil once a week. Leave it to drain and go with that. If it's been stood, I use an l soaked rag and coat all the chain with that first. I've had rust but only when the bikes been stood outside for a few days and there's been heavy rain. 



Chain Care - Apache - 13-03-2017

Pd oiler takes some beating. I mounted a rear brake reservoir under my seat higher than the kit to give it extra gravity fed capacity for touring. Good for 3k miles. Swing arm has to come out once a year for a thorough clean out but the excess fling stops any rust around the shock/ swing arm mount......35 to 40k from chains and they'd probably go to 50k if left.