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Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - dapleb - 03-04-2006

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Cheers
dapleb

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - UncleSimon - 08-07-2006

I solved mine by using self amalgamating tape on the coils.
Works a treat!

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - wicklamulla - 09-07-2006

<!--quoteo(post=10321:date=Sat 8th Jul 2006, 08:40 PM:name=UncleSimon)-->QUOTE(UncleSimon @ Sat 8th Jul 2006, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I solved mine by using self amalgamating tape on the coils.
Works a treat!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


ahh i didn't actually seal up the coils but i did seal up the leads and plug caps with self amalg tape.

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - tdm850rider - 04-02-2007

Wouldn't this go under 'Electrical' in KB? It <b>is</b> about coils and leads?

Am I missing something?

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - geordieguy - 12-11-2007

Any picture Wicky ?

Mines been bucking like a rodeo mustang..... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif[/img] in the wet.

Thought I sorted it with damp seal ..but its back.

What do the coils look like after you've done them ?

Cheers, Ivan

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - dapleb - 12-11-2007

Yeah damp seal works for a while. My very first ever post on Carpe was about this. I bodged it with damp seal for a while. Then after noticing it arcing from lead to frame, eventually replaced the leads and waterproofed the bassads.

Just make sure you overlap slightly at both ends (the plug caps at one end and coils at t'other). Jobs a carrot.

You on a 9'er Geordie? Seems to be the mkII's more than the mkI's or 9'ers that are affected!



Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - geordieguy - 12-11-2007

Yep.. Dapleb

My 900 has had its moments in the wet of dying when you pull away from the lights.. very scarey !!!

Then Hessitating when reving , only to find a sudden surge of power......

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif[/img] Yeehaa !!!!

I'll get some self -amalgamating tape and do the business.



Cheers, Ivan [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - dwayne dibley - 03-12-2007

<!--quoteo(post=61090:date=Mon 12th Nov 2007, 01:18 PM:name=Geordie Guy)-->QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Mon 12th Nov 2007, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yep.. Dapleb

My 900 has had its moments in the wet of dying when you pull away from the lights.. very scarey !!!

Then Hessitating when reving , only to find a sudden surge of power......<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yup, sounds like mine! Even scary when you pull out to overtake and the power just goes.

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - peterkelly - 06-12-2007

<!--quoteo(post=61090:date=Mon 12th Nov 2007, 03:18 PM:name=Geordie Guy)-->QUOTE(Geordie Guy @ Mon 12th Nov 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yep.. Dapleb

My 900 has had its moments in the wet of dying when you pull away from the lights.. very scarey !!!

Then Hessitating when reving , only to find a sudden surge of power......

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif[/img] Yeehaa !!!!

I'll get some self -amalgamating tape and do the business.
Cheers, Ivan [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I thought this was just the TPS problem (fixed at recall) but this has just started again on my 2002 900 at 34500 miles, in the torrents of rain on the M62 today

not sure what self amalamagating tape is ..or where I put it

Is this what I need?

pete



Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - Guest - 06-12-2007

self amalgamating tape
[Image: PC020988.jpg]
before
[Image: PC020963.jpg]
after
[Image: PC020973.jpg]

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - amarko5 - 06-12-2007

<!--quoteo(post=63815:date=Thu 6th Dec 2007, 09:25 PM:name=Pantboy)-->QUOTE(Pantboy @ Thu 6th Dec 2007, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->self amalgamating tape<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

making sure to dry all components very well before wrapping damp inside [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - peterkelly - 07-12-2007

<!--quoteo(post=63815:date=Thu 6th Dec 2007, 11:25 PM:name=Pantboy)-->QUOTE(Pantboy @ Thu 6th Dec 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->self amalgamating tape[Image: PC020988.jpg]before[Image: PC020963.jpg]after[Image: PC020973.jpg]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->thats fantastic PB - I will have a go at it tomorrowI am afraid I am a modern-bike-mechanic virgin - it was a lot different rebuilding Tiger '10s in 1967.....dealers must make a fortune from my regular 6000 services!all the bestpete<!--quoteo(post=63822:date=Fri 7th Dec 2007, 12:06 AM:name=Hartside Man)-->QUOTE(Hartside Man @ Fri 7th Dec 2007, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->making sure to dry all components very well before wrapping damp inside [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->many thanks to you as well HMcrikeythe benefits of the TDM site never fail to impress me. all the best pete

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - geordieguy - 12-12-2007

I went to buy some of that tape, when I looked at it I was a bit worried about the heat, was it up to the job.

Afterall the lead to the coil on mine rests on the block....... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img]

[Image: STA41641.jpg]

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img] DHOOH !!! Thats what is causing it. Its shorting in the rain to the engine block. Hence the misfires !!

Feeling the back of the lead sure enough the lead has an indent where it's been touching.

so my solution is to lift it off the block with a cable tie......

[Image: STA41642.jpg]

Simple...

I wonder if all 900 leads touch the top of the engine block ?

Cheers, Ivan

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - dwayne dibley - 13-12-2007

Blimey! Just checked mine, exactly the same! Add another quirk to the 900.

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - tdm850rider - 13-12-2007

<!--quoteo(post=64256:date=Thu 13th Dec 2007, 04:57 AM:name=dwayne dibley)-->QUOTE(dwayne dibley @ Thu 13th Dec 2007, 04:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Blimey! Just checked mine, exactly the same! Add another quirk to the 900.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Too bad Yamaha hasn't figured this out yet. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - geordieguy - 15-01-2008

Went out for a ride last sunday and the problem is back !!!!
could not believe it.. thought it was sorted.

Took the side panels off and took the leads and coils off, ready to do the self amalgamating tape business, when I noticed this

[Image: STA41690.jpg]

So it was arcing in two places... did the business

[Image: STA41691.jpg]

And what a difference... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]

So everyone was right, the tape insulates the leads.

Brilliant !!!!!!

Cheers, Ivan

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - Guest - 16-01-2008

If they used some quality leads in the first place we wouldn't have to worry about this sort of thing for at least 10 years.

Unless they're wearing on the engine.

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - dwayne dibley - 28-01-2008

OMG!

What a transformation!

When my bike ticks over, every now and a gain the revs drop then pick up again, and if i 'blip' the throttle the revs were slow to catch up. Removed the side panels as I could hear a ticking sound, and lo an behold. A spark from the HT lead to the frame. Done the tape fix, and what a transformation, its like having my old bike back. No rough running, no rev drops, sweet.

So good had to ride it to Llangollen just for fun, the grin factor is back [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - pistolwhip - 17-03-2008

hello boys and girls.

I been lurking in here awhile now. got my tdm850 a few weeks ago. and it ran good. up until i had it serviced. then the genius mech sprayed water all over and its been runnig like a dog ever since.

i did up the amalgamating bit.... but it still drags...

how now?

cheers all and thanx in advance.

Wet Weather Rough Running: Coils and Leads - geordieguy - 17-03-2008

Welcome to the party Pistolwip... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]

Sounds like there is water in the electrics.

Get a big can of WD40 and spray everthing you can, get the seat of as in some of the above links,

and spray inside the relay boxes. OR leave the bike out in wind.

If its just water it will eventually try off.

dont forget to update us

Good Luck.

Cheers, Ivan