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My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - pilootdotcom - 19-06-2007

Having read before about a HID installation with a ballast unit in the right fairing part and one behind the dash, I always figured I probably only had space for only one ballast unit, since I already have a compact Stebel Nautilus airhorn in the right side. Having read later that someone else had a ballast unit in the left fairing part I guessed I did have a chance to fit HID bulbs for both low beam and high beam. I ordered the same kit I had on my Renault Safrane (also two times H7, 6000K) for 155 euro online and started installation.

Here's the kit, ordered from www.tunex.nl . The kit comes from China, but does have Philips IC's inside apparently:

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One of the bulbs and ballasts out of the box and connected:

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As seen on JBX's installation, you remove the screen and dash cover, making sure you don't loose the rubber grommet on the forward part:

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Putting the ballast in behind the dash was easy:

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But then I figured there might actually be room for more. So I tried to also put the second ballast in there. It turned out you can easily slide it in from the side:

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And indeed, there was room enough for both units [Image: good.gif] :

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So, after disconnecting the battery I hooked up all the wires and, with everything only loosely in place, I reconnected the battery and tested the bulbs:

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Here you see one of the bulbs, with the protective tube still in place but the foam around it removed (still a foam ring below it to):

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Next was trying to figure out how to combine the bulbs, connectors, wires, rubber ring and the rubber cover together. This is what I eventually did:

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As you can see above, I removed the little clip of the main ballast connector in order to get it through the hole in the big rubber Yamaha light cover. I then also put the two other, smaller, plugs through the hole. I had to leave the two little flat plugs (which connect to the stock H7 light connector from the bike) inside, which I would route trough the edge of the rubber cover. At least, I had to do that if I wanted to keep that little rubber ring in place, which I wanted to use to close up the hole in the big rubber cover from inside. Next to the Xenon bulb, you see the halogen bulb, with the Yamaha plug extender still in place.

That bulb plug extender thingie on the back of the halogen bulb created a small problem, since the steel clip would not touch the xenon bulb. So the bulb would't stay in place. I decided to leave the foam ring, originally meant to close the protective packaging tube, in place to sort of replace the extender thingie. It appeared to be perfect to allow the clip to push tight against the foam and therefor the bulb:

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Next the rubber cover was pushed on, the flat plugs came out from the top and connected to the H7 feed:

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Reconnect the battery, et voila:

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Low beam only:

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After this I removed the side and top fairing to give me more space in order to fixate the ballast units and put away the wires more neatly:

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Four big tie-rips around the dash mounting plate were enough:

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Looks neat, doesn't it (and it's dry too):

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This is how the wires looked just before reinstalling the dashboard cover:

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And while I was at it I tried to see how the vertical adjustment screw actually worked since I could never get it to move. Now I know how it works, I can adjust it. But this time it didn't need it. A big flat screwdriver works best. And not turning it but nudging it a few teeth at a time works better too:

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I'll post experiences later because I gotta go. But so far I love 'm... [Image: good.gif]

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - Guest - 19-06-2007

Good job, that's a really good explanation. [Image: good.gif]

Now, can ya do an 850 and describe it to me. [Image: unsure.gif]

This should go in the knowledgebase.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - Jez - 19-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44591:date=Tue 19th Jun 2007, 06:48 PM:name=Emmett)-->QUOTE(Emmett @ Tue 19th Jun 2007, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Good job, that's a really good explanation. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]

Now, can ya do an 850 and describe it to me. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif[/img]

This should go in the knowledgebase.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Excellent description with superb pics.

Mk2 is pretty much the same if not even easier. There is more room inside the fairing so all you need to do is remove the screen and clock shroud. Takes about an hour to fit. Make sure you have plenty of cable ties to strap the ballasts to the fairing frame.

I will be fitting a pair of relays next week which will require tank removal as well. At present only the high beam is HID because the dip doesn't always come on properly. The relays should sort this.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - TonyDevil - 19-06-2007

great topic mate
moved to knowledge base [Image: good.gif]

is that conversion legal?
ie. will it pass an MOT in the UK i wonder? [Image: doubtfull.gif]

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - TDMTAM - 19-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44643:date=Tue 19th Jun 2007, 11:10 PM:name=Toneski)-->QUOTE(Toneski @ Tue 19th Jun 2007, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->great topic mate
moved to knowledge base [Image: good.gif]

is that conversion legal?
ie. will it pass an MOT in the UK i wonder? [Image: doubtfull.gif]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No HID lights have to have a self leveling mechanisim & also washers fitted for it to be legal in the UK. Or so I have been told.
TAM

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - Stunts - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44651:date=Tue 19th Jun 2007, 11:29 PM:name=TDMTAM)-->QUOTE(TDMTAM @ Tue 19th Jun 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->No HID lights have to have a self leveling mechanisim & also washers fitted for it to be legal in the UK. Or so I have been told.
TAM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Mine sailed through the MOT a couple of weeks ago. The legal stipulation regarding the auto levelling and high pressure washer system is only relevant on new cars - not on retro fitted equipment.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - TDMTAM - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44695:date=Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:13 AM:name=Stunts)-->QUOTE(Stunts @ Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Mine sailed through the MOT a couple of weeks ago. The legal stipulation regarding the auto levelling and high pressure washer system is only relevant on new cars - not on retro fitted equipment.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think it would have to be a very strict MOT tester to fail you for them.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps
<!--sizeo:1--><!--/sizeo-->not trying to be an arse smart or anything<!--sizec--><!--/sizec-->
TAM

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - Jez - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44696:date=Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:33 AM:name=TDMTAM)-->QUOTE(TDMTAM @ Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think it would have to be a very strict MOT tester to fail you for them.
TAM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

My MOT tester friend says should be ok as long as the level is set ok.

With so many car drivers unable to keep an eye on their headlight function and aim you can see why it would be a worry though.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - pilootdotcom - 20-06-2007

In Holland aftermarket HID installation (for cars at least) is allowed for cars built before december 2006. If they're newer than that, new rules apply for aftermarket setups. I'm not sure those are the same rules as for new installations and I also don't know if that applies to motorcycles. One would have to look at the BMW K1200GT which has HID installed standard. It doesn't seem to have washers, nor do I doubt that it has an autoleveler.

Anyway, we don't have MOT's for motorcycles in Holland [Image: tongue.gif] .......... yet [Image: dry.gif]

All pics of my installation BTW can be found here: http://piloot.smugmug.com/gallery/3027130

Bring me your TDM850 and we'll put it on together, making a similar picture show [Image: smile.gif]

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - pilootdotcom - 20-06-2007

To finish the lighting chapter a bit, the position light (little "3rd" light) you see in the pics is a LED light. What you can't see in the pics is that it's extremely bright, because I tuned down the exposure on the camera to get a better picture.

The LED light I bought on ebay (UK this time I believe, but you'll find the everywhere) as a pair:

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Installation is a simple plug and play operation, here you see the 4 LED's in the lamp in more detail:

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Just unscrew the two screws on the lens, pull out the old bulb, plug in the new. Since it is not omnidirectional, the reflector won't be used anymore by the LED's (they shine forward, not backward like the regular bulb). That's why it looks like a dot. But it is much brighter than the stock bulb. On the next two pictures you see the regular bulb and the LED's compared. The shutter speed and focal opening are identical:

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It also happens to have the same color as the 6000K HID lights. The position light seemed to be very noticable the last few months it was in.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - TonyDevil - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44721:date=Wed 20th Jun 2007, 11:19 AM:name=E-njoy)-->QUOTE(E-njoy @ Wed 20th Jun 2007, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Bring me your TDM850 and we'll put it on together, making a similar picture show [Image: smile.gif]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
be careful what you offer, theres a whole load of us passing thru Belgium in a couple of weeks [Image: wink.gif]

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - Guest - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44725:date=Wed 20th Jun 2007, 11:54 AM:name=Toneski)-->QUOTE(Toneski @ Wed 20th Jun 2007, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->be careful what you offer, theres a whole load of us passing thru Belgium in a couple of weeks [Image: wink.gif]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll leave my 850 with you, and take your 900 to Germany E-njoy. [Image: unsure.gif]

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - Stunts - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44696:date=Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:33 AM:name=TDMTAM)-->QUOTE(TDMTAM @ Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think it would have to be a very strict MOT tester to fail you for them.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps
<!--sizeo:1--><!--/sizeo-->not trying to be an arse smart or anything<!--sizec--><!--/sizec-->
TAM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


[Image: good.gif] Hairy muff - I stand infected. Good find that man - I knew there was discussion on it but I didn't realise legislation had been passed..... [Image: blink.gif]

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - pilootdotcom - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44737:date=Wed 20th Jun 2007, 02:09 PM:name=Emmett)-->QUOTE(Emmett @ Wed 20th Jun 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'll leave my 850 with you, and take your 900 to Germany E-njoy. [Image: unsure.gif]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Sure, no problem. Gonna take my time though since I will be gone for several days in a row on nightstops in Germany. Wonder how many loads will be passing through, didn't see a lot of folks dedicating themselves in that topic. Are you going to order the HID kit, or you want me to do it for you here? Two times H7 as well? Or just one? Room enough in the fairing for two ballasts?

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - baron - 20-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44695:date=Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:13 AM:name=Stunts)-->QUOTE(Stunts @ Wed 20th Jun 2007, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Mine sailed through the MOT a couple of weeks ago. The legal stipulation regarding the auto levelling and high pressure washer system is only relevant on new cars - not on retro fitted equipment.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mine passed it's first MOT without any problem either. 2 x HID's fitted

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - slmsd1968 - 23-06-2007

Hi everyone! New to the site so I may have a few silly questions. One question I have is the light above the headlight. On U.S. bikes they don't have it. I ordered one on ebay.uk and I was wondering what would be the best way to hook it since my 1992 didn't have a socket for it.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - wicklamulla - 23-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=45024:date=Sat 23rd Jun 2007, 06:01 AM:name=KIDD)-->QUOTE(KIDD @ Sat 23rd Jun 2007, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Hi everyone! New to the site so I may have a few silly questions. One question I have is the light above the headlight. On U.S. bikes they don't have it. I ordered one on ebay.uk and I was wondering what would be the best way to hook it since my 1992 didn't have a socket for it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hello and welcome Kidd (first name Eddie or Billy perhaps??) are you 100% sure that the socket is not on your bike loom, have you checked ?? how many loight switch positions do stateside TDM's have ??

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - slmsd1968 - 27-06-2007

Well I had the bike apart this weekend and after inspecting the wiring under the cowling there was no socket for a bulb. I did find what wires I would need to get it done though through the Haynes manual. Just need a ground and I will grab some power off the tail light.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - wicklamulla - 27-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=45549:date=Wed 27th Jun 2007, 11:24 AM:name=KIDD)-->QUOTE(KIDD @ Wed 27th Jun 2007, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Well I had the bike apart this weekend and after inspecting the wiring under the cowling there was no socket for a bulb. I did find what wires I would need to get it done though through the Haynes manual. Just need a ground and I will grab some power off the tail light.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
good job then. it shud be easy enough to wire it in.

My HID Xenon installation (low and high beam) - Jez - 28-06-2007

<!--quoteo(post=44606:date=Tue 19th Jun 2007, 07:51 PM:name=Jez)-->QUOTE(Jez @ Tue 19th Jun 2007, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Excellent description with superb pics.

Mk2 is pretty much the same if not even easier. There is more room inside the fairing so all you need to do is remove the screen and clock shroud. Takes about an hour to fit. Make sure you have plenty of cable ties to strap the ballasts to the fairing frame.

<!--coloro:#FF0000--><!--/coloro-->I will be fitting a pair of relays <!--colorc-->
<!--/colorc-->next week which will require tank removal as well. At present only the high beam is HID because it doesn't always come on properly. The relays should sort this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Fused relays fitted behind right hand fairing panel and supplied straight from battery. Both ballasts attached to fairing frame behind the screen. Loads of room and one happy Jez [Image: banana.gif] .