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Noob Question - aircooled68 - 07-03-2009
Hi,
Having never been out the country on a bike, what do i need to take(document wise)?
can anyone do me a noob list
thanks Dave
Noob Question - Guest - 07-03-2009
Document wise you need
Licence and Passport.
Photo copy of Insurance, V5 and Mot.
I take contact details for breakdown recovery as well.
Dont forget tickets for travel!!
Noob Question - TonyDevil - 07-03-2009
and travel insurance, most policys dont cover you while riding motorcycles and not all personal accident cover is valid outside of UK even if your policy covers your bike
Noob Question - drobinson - 07-03-2009
<!--quoteo(post=113181:date=Sat 7th Mar 2009, 02:57 PM:name=Dannyboy)-->QUOTE(Dannyboy @ Sat 7th Mar 2009, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Document wise you need
Licence and Passport.
Photo copy of Insurance, V5 and Mot.
I take contact details for breakdown recovery as well.
Dont forget tickets for travel!!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As above
what I normally do as a backup, is to scan all my documents and print out a spare copy and also save the files on a cd / memory stick and store them under the seat
BD
Noob Question - aircooled68 - 07-03-2009
Thanks Fella's [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]
Noob Question - duibhceK - 07-03-2009
<!--quoteo(post=113181:date=Sat 7th Mar 2009, 03:57 PM:name=Dannyboy)-->QUOTE(Dannyboy @ Sat 7th Mar 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Photo copy of Insurance, V5 and Mot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
most Belgian cops will not accept a photocopy as a valid insurance document. I assume it will be similar in other mainland countries...
Noob Question - sidestand - 07-03-2009
Must admit - i always take originals AND photocopies - I like the memery stick idea though Dave [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/good.gif[/img]
Plus don't forget your European Health Card (the one that replaces the E111) - and check it's still valid as they do have an expiry date !
Noob Question - Guest - 07-03-2009
Strictly speaking its the same here. However with the details on the photocopy they can check with the insurer if its valid.
In England if you dont have your docks to hand you just get a producer by the police. This gives you 7 days to bring the missing documents to a police station of your choice.
Noob Question - Guest - 07-03-2009
Depends where you're going, but always worth checking the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO), becuse you'll get the very latest information (there's everything from documents, medicine & health, problems and threats, as well as more general information about the country, also importantly where the consulate is and phone numbers, in case of any problems. (oh and don't forget to make a note of the emergency services numbers...most of europe 911 will do, but that's not always the case...and sometimes its different for different emergency services)
see FOC Site (Home Page)
see here for FRANCE
See here for Europe (then select your country)
From FCO on France...
Local Travel
Road Travel
Advice on driving outside the UK can be obtained from motoring organisations such as the AA and RAC.
Information on safety and potential traffic black spots is available on the French government website: http://www.bison-fute.equipement.gouv.fr. This website is only available in French.
To drive in France you must be 18 years old and have a valid UK driving licence, insurance and vehicle documents. Failure to comply may lead to a fine and/or your vehicle being impounded. You are not permitted to drive at 17 even if you hold a valid licence. If you do not own the vehicle you are driving, you are advised to obtain written permission from the registered owner.
It is obligatory to carry a warning triangle and reflective jacket. The reflective jacket must be stored inside the vehicle itself. Non-compliance is a fineable offence.
Driving regulations in France are different from those in the UK. Speeding can result in heavy, on the spot fines and potentially immediate confiscation of your vehicle and licence.
In 2007 there were 4,620 road deaths in France (source: DfT). This equates to 7.3 road deaths per 100,000 of population and compares to the UK average of 5.0 road deaths per 100,000 of population in 2007. Many drivers undertake long journeys in, or through, France. Care should be taken to plan journeys and take regular breaks.
In-car radar detectors are illegal in France whether in use or not. If caught with one, you are liable to fines and/or, confiscation of the device and the vehicle.
Noob Question - Guest - 07-03-2009
Nice reply ET. What about sat navs then?
Noob Question - duibhceK - 08-03-2009
radar detectors are illegal almost everywhere in Europe.
GPS-based speed camera warnings are legal though. <b>Except in Switzerland</b>, even when turned off. Do not load Swiss speed cameras in your GPS.
Noob Question - Guest - 08-03-2009
What's the situation with warning triangles and Hi viz jackets for bikes? Is it the same as cars? If so, where would you have to keep the jacket, somewhere you could get it without getting off the bike?
When riding in Africa I scanned everything including my travel insurance details and the emergency numbers for my credit cards and sent them to my Hotmail account. That way if everything went I could go to an internet cafe and print off copies.
Noob Question - Guest - 08-03-2009
Excellent idea!
Noob Question - dapleb - 08-03-2009
Spare bulbs? (not a document but could help you from needing to produce em)
Noob Question - duibhceK - 08-03-2009
<!--quoteo(post=113262:date=Sun 8th Mar 2009, 10:31 AM:name=Matt_G)-->QUOTE(Matt_G @ Sun 8th Mar 2009, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What's the situation with warning triangles and Hi viz jackets for bikes? Is it the same as cars? If so, where would you have to keep the jacket, somewhere you could get it without getting off the bike?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
there has been a lot of discussion about that in several countries, but afaik it hasn't made it into law anywhere yet.
for Germany (and some other countries) a TUV-compliant medical kit is compulsory though.
Noob Question - Guest - 08-03-2009
Jo picked up a nice compact warning triangle for me from halfrauds. Fits nice and easy in side pannier. I reckon a high viz and first aid kit are essential if riding off the beaten track. Only need a basic jobby perhaps with a thermal blanket in case cold/shock. I have bodged a mini essentials kit after advice from Chris G containing gaffer tape, puncture repair kit, ties and such. Could keep you on the road and save a hefty bill.
Noob Question - Guest - 08-03-2009
I bought some bike jump leads from Halfords in a little bag, they fit nicely (together with gaffer tape and cable ties) just tucked inside the RH front fairing. My TDM eats batteries, and if its damp or cold the battery flattens quite quickly. Any nearby biker would stop and help (like they do here), but if you ain't got the tools.
Thinking about it I also had some disposable surgical gloves, just for any of those little dirty jobs (steady!!!) and a head torch, which are feckin brilliant if you're doing stuff with both hands (calm down!!!), a little jar of hand cleaner, and a 50ml alcoholly hand cleaner (which TBH I carrry everywhere with our without bike) its good if you've gotta go miles from nowhere and there's no wash basin.
Just pack some spare cash in a little nook somewhere, just in case you lose your wallet and need to fill up/eat, or in case there's issues with a payment thingy not accepting your card (I had that a few times in Switzerland).
Stick Slime (or equiv) in your tyres, think of it as an insurance policy. always have one extra layer to hand in case it gets chilly (which it often does if you're going up mountains).
Spare pair of gloves for when yours get wet through, or you lose one.
chain lube (or scottoiler)
If you wear glasses take a spare pair (its a legal requirement in some countries)
The rest I guess is obvious maps, (don't rely entirely on a sat nav..they can go wrong, get nicked etc), phrase book, addresses of where you're going.
A sun hat to protect your head when you take your lid off.
Oh and a microfibre cloth and visor cleaner, you CANNOT believe how many bugs live on the continent! And another one for wiping down a wet seat before you start you days riding.
Have fun!!
Noob Question - TDMick - 08-03-2009
I'm just planning ahead here, what would you take as a tool kit / spares kit for touring?
Either in the UK or Europe?
Also what do you carry with you for bike security (for camp sites and suchlike)?
I'm trying to get some lists together
Noob Question - sidestand - 08-03-2009
You have to carry spare bulbs by law in France - so take some of them.
Viz vest (for breakdowns) is law pretty much everywhere now.
Zip ties & gaffer tape are very useful
Basic first aid kit
Spare Key & documents - second cash/credit card
Puncture outfit/pressure guage/mini pump (those CO2 cartridges aren't brilliant - you need about 4 to inflate a tyre)
I always hide a couple of 20 euro notes in a freezer bag in the toolkit for emergencies
Enhanced toolkit
I have one of those 'joypump' things as well for siphoning petrol out of other tanks if you run out
LED Torch
Noob Question - TDMick - 08-03-2009
<!--quoteo(post=113379:date=Sun 8th Mar 2009, 08:52 PM:name=sidestand)-->QUOTE(sidestand @ Sun 8th Mar 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->You have to carry spare bulbs by law in France - so take some of them.
Viz vest (for breakdowns) is law pretty much everywhere now.
Zip ties & gaffer tape are very useful
Basic first aid kit
Spare Key & documents - second cash/credit card
Puncture outfit/pressure guage/mini pump (those CO2 cartridges aren't brilliant - you need about 4 to inflate a tyre)
I always hide a couple of 20 euro notes in a freezer bag in the toolkit for emergencies
Enhanced toolkit
I have one of those 'joypump' things as well for siphoning petrol out of other tanks if you run out
LED Torch<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How well do those mini pumps work off the bike battery?
Sorry to be a total thicky but what about tools, spark plugs etc. etc.
joypump for petrol siphoning [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rotflmmfao.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rotflmmfao.gif[/img] that wasn't the end of the sentence I was expecting.