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Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - Guest - 31-05-2010
Motorcyclists attending the annual Margate Meltdown are being handed cards which could potentially save their lives in the event of an accident.
South East Coast Ambulance (SECAmb) has joined forces with the Highways Agency to introduce the "crash cards".
Riders fill in the cards with life-saving information to help medics and fix them into their helmets.
More than 30,000 riders visit the Kent town over the Bank Holiday weekend. The card is also being launched in Sussex.
Sussex Police said on Friday that four motorcyclists were seriously injured on the roads in East Sussex last weekend.
Medical history
"This card could really make the difference between life and death," said paramedic Chris Attfield, who helped develop the card for SECamb.
"It is a sad fact that when a motorcyclist is involved in a collision it can be very serious and leave them unconscious.
"The cards will not only help identify them but also ensure we can tailor the treatment we provide at the roadside."
The cards have space for any medical history, along with next of kin and other information.
The cards come with a green sticker that can be fixed to the outside of the helmet to show emergency services a crash card is inside.
"Motorcyclists represent less than 1% of road users, but in terms of those killed or seriously injured, they account for 19% of the total number of casualties Felicity Drewett, Highways Agency co-ordinator for Kent and Sussex.
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - King OFF the Road - 31-05-2010
As a paramedic of many years I would not bother.
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - TonyDevil - 31-05-2010
<!--quoteo(post=164350:date=Mon 31st May 2010, 07:56 PM:name=Landy)-->QUOTE(Landy @ Mon 31st May 2010, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As a paramedic of many years I would not bother.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
why?
coz of the risk the info is for someone you borrowed the lid off etc? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - Guest - 31-05-2010
<!--quoteo(post=164350:date=Mon 31st May 2010, 07:56 PM:name=Landy)-->QUOTE(Landy @ Mon 31st May 2010, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As a paramedic of many years I would not bother.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think this is a great idea as a stop gap until we all get lo-jacked (it will happen)
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - Lagotete - 31-05-2010
<!--quoteo(post=164369:date=Mon 31st May 2010, 09:02 PM:name=celticbiker)-->QUOTE(celticbiker @ Mon 31st May 2010, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think this is a great idea as a stop gap until we all get lo-jacked (it will happen)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
By "lo-jacked", do you mean "tracked like parcels"?
If you go down that route, it is even more likely that one day, the polically correct decide that 19% of casualty with only 1% of the road user is enough of an argument to prevent bikes all together [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img] This will happen immediatly after they ban cigarette completely ...and sex to those with heart desease. Politicians should be shown the film 1984 regularly to see the world they are preparing "for our good".
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - TDMick - 31-05-2010
<!--quoteo(post=164406:date=Tue 1st Jun 2010, 12:17 AM:name=Fernihough)-->QUOTE(Fernihough @ Tue 1st Jun 2010, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->By "lo-jacked", do you mean "tracked like parcels"?
If you go down that route, it is even more likely that one day, the polically correct decide that 19% of casualty with only 1% of the road user is enough of an argument to prevent bikes all together [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img] This will happen immediatly after they ban cigarette completely ...and sex to those with heart desease. <!--coloro:#FF0000--><!--/coloro-->Politicians should be shown the film 1984 regularly to see the world they are preparing "for our good".<!--colorc-->
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The trouble with that idea, Ferni, is that politicians see the "1984 scenario" as a good thing! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ranting.gif[/img]
It will only give them ideas.
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - Lagotete - 31-05-2010
<!--quoteo(post=164407:date=Tue 1st Jun 2010, 12:29 AM:name=TDMick)-->QUOTE(TDMick @ Tue 1st Jun 2010, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The trouble with that idea, Ferni, is that politicians see the "1984 scenario" as a good thing! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ranting.gif[/img]
It will only give them ideas.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You could be right [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img] Carpe TDM will have to get to out of town and organise resistance (Mad max style) [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - King OFF the Road - 01-06-2010
<!--quoteo(post=164359:date=Mon 31st May 2010, 08:27 PM:name=TonyDevil)-->QUOTE(TonyDevil @ Mon 31st May 2010, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->why?
coz of the risk the info is for someone you borrowed the lid off etc? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Most folks don't have any medical history that would make any difference to the ambo's if you are so bashed up that you can not tell them. For those that do the space on a credit card size note would be unlikely to be of much help.
Next of kin info may be of use to the hospital staff but mostly not hard for them to find out.
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - Johnlaas - 02-06-2010
Oh my - Yet another ID / medical scheme. Yes in principal a great idea but in practice I don't see a lot of benefit.
I know from experience that paramedics and A&E staff my not "clock" the fact that we are carrying something that may be of assistance. Until all staff in these areas do check, and early on, then these schemes will not work.
If its going to happen it also needs to be something consistent and across the whole nation. What happens if you are in Essex or Surrey? Will the medical staff in these areas know what to look for - unlikely I think.
And as for putting inside your lid!
Sorry to knock the idea but it is just not well thought out IMHO.
John
Bikers In Kent And Sussex Urged To Carry Crash Cards - Guest - 03-06-2010
<!--quoteo(post=164513:date=Tue 1st Jun 2010, 08:23 PM:name=Landy)-->QUOTE(Landy @ Tue 1st Jun 2010, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Most folks don't have any medical history that would make any difference to the ambo's if you are so bashed up that you can not tell them. For those that do the space on a credit card size note would be unlikely to be of much help.
Next of kin info may be of use to the hospital staff but mostly not hard for them to find out.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What he said!
Can't think of anything that would influence your pre-hospital treatment that could be written on a small card.