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850 Destruction - dablik - 22-04-2019
Quote:Prolly a bit late dabbers but alt holdy toolÂ
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Clutch holdy tool
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Oooh lubberley, ya buy/borrow the alt holding tool, ya never knocked that up in the shed..............did ya :blink:
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Aha the clutchy holder looks loike it may have been a cake trolley at some point in it's life
shall make one like it from two slot shelving uprights me thinks.. unless Dave lets me borrow a few more impact sockets of course.850 Destruction - dapleb - 22-04-2019
Tis brilliantly simple dabbers.... Just a giant version of a strap wrench. Just a grooved belt bolted to handle, loops back and a metal tang to add tension. Use it alot on stubborn filters and alike.
I might even have a proper clutch holder somewhere if ewe need a loaner oi will have a brevit.
850 Destruction - dablik - 22-04-2019
Would save quite a bit of faffing about if you do, it's a right ball ache setting everything up for a mini metal shop but ho hum when needs must.
850 Destruction - Studley Ramrod - 22-04-2019
Ah yes, clutch in neutral, now I remember.
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A dremel should remove the lip/s on the camshaft bearings and you already mentioned prolly having to buy new buckets anyhoos. Have at it, or let Nadi do it.
850 Destruction - dablik - 22-04-2019
Quote:Ah yes, clutch in neutral, now I remember.Â
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A dremel should remove the lip/s on the camshaft bearings and you already mentioned prolly having to buy new buckets anyhoos. Have at it, or let Nadi do it.
Okeedokee but any advise on what to stick in the dremel, polishing stone mayhaps, dont think a grind stone might be such a good idea, i think 1st i will try and depress the bucket down onto the spring to see if it will do a zebedee
850 Destruction - alanfavell - 22-04-2019
Burrrrrr removerz - gently does it with the dremel type machine
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6Pcs-HSS-Routing-Router-Bit-Suit-Burr-Set-Rotary-Milling-Cutter-Tool-For-Dremel/202625443778?epid=1094448361&hash=item2f2d6ae7c2:g:ecMAAOSwFe5Xx6B2&frcectupt=true
850 Destruction - dablik - 23-04-2019
Cheers Al, i got's one of them, but i think it's a ball, will order one thanks.
850 Destruction - dapleb - 23-04-2019
Found clutch hold tool, if you want lend just nod. Brand new unused.... I prefer me cakey trolley but not so easy to post.
Somewhere you posted about 29mm nut, which I thought were odd...can't find where posted now or may have imagined it but checked on one of garden ornaments. Clutch tool fits fine and 30mm socket will work fine for centre nut.
I also have short/long 30mm sockets if required. Non of my kit is impact though as don't have impact gun and never needed one... That might explain why I am so slow. ;0)
850 Destruction - dablik - 23-04-2019
Quote:Found clutch hold tool, if you want lend just nod. Brand new unused.... I prefer me cakey trolley but not so easy to post.Â
Somewhere you posted about 29mm nut, which I thought were odd...can't find where posted now or may have imagined it but checked on one of garden ornaments. Clutch tool fits fine and 30mm socket will work fine for centre nut.
I also have short/long 30mm sockets if required. Non of my kit is impact though as don't have impact gun and never needed one... That might explain why I am so slow. ;0)
Daps i hope you did'nt have to go hauling through boxes in the warehouse to find it
thanks your a love however, gotta hold of Dave and will pick up a few more impact sockets before i'm off work to do the dirty deed, and yep about that 30mm clutch nut, since found out it's not 29mm, sure the 30 felt a little loose initialy ! maybe was the hot sun at end of the day, so should be good now mucka, thankee yew.Â
Edit..Slow is good eh.... just loike me sex life
850 Destruction - Phracker - 24-04-2019
I see I'm not the only one stripping the motor down in this lovely weather.
850 Destruction - dablik - 25-04-2019
Quote:I see I'm not the only one stripping the motor down in this lovely weather.Â
Yup mines going the whole hog as well with a gearbox replacement and some more TLC.
850 Destruction - dablik - 26-04-2019
Clutch undone this morning
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But having a little trouble wiggling the housing out, think it's caught on the primary gear maybe, anyone have a trick for removal ?
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Other news, Flywheel removal not going to well, snapped an M8 HT bolt holding the puller in and the puller itself appears to be of the chocolate variant.
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So need to decide what to do about the rotor now.
850 Destruction - Studley Ramrod - 26-04-2019
oooops.
850 Destruction - alanfavell - 26-04-2019
While under tension a sharp tap on the centre bolt will often shock the rotor free. Oh and buy 10.9 or better bolts. HTH
850 Destruction - dapleb - 26-04-2019
Ooopsie. Did that chicken foot even have a flat side at the start?
HBs are normally reasonably tight but not rotor tight. It looks like a less bodgy solution than 3 legged puller but maybe not as useful then judging from that pic.
As favs says some tactical blows whilst under load can help.
Mayhaps we need to design a special robust tool for this job.
850 Destruction - dablik - 26-04-2019
Quote:While under tension a sharp tap on the centre bolt will often shock the rotor free. Oh and buy 10.9 or better bolts. HTHÂ
Cheers Al, will source some new bolts.
850 Destruction - dablik - 26-04-2019
Quote:Ooopsie. Did that chicken foot even have a flat side at the start?Â
HBs are normally reasonably tight but not rotor tight. It looks like a less bodgy solution than 3 legged puller but maybe not as useful then judging from that pic.
As favs says some tactical blows whilst under load can help.
Mayhaps we need to design a special robust tool for this job.
No flat side daps it's rounded on both, dont think it's up to pulling this rotor off anyhoo, i can get steel plate of ebay, in fact one chap will centre hole a round steel disc which would help then i would need to drill for the tension bolts, dont fancy chuckin a 3 legged puller onnit but may be best solution now.
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Biggest concern now is how to remove the broken HT bolt, not sure an extractor will remove it givin the amount of torque it broke off at, i expect i'll need to get it out as the puller becomes lopsided with only 2 bolts in, funny that as the proper Yam tool appears to only use 2 bolts.
850 Destruction - dapleb - 26-04-2019
Ewwww bolt broked off inth'ole, missed that bit. Booger.
Do you gots pic of the yam tool?
850 Destruction - dablik - 26-04-2019
Oh this one has provision for 3 bolts
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It's the picture of the one in the Haynes manual which show's one with only 2 bolts.
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Will have a measure up of the rotor, perhaps a 3 legged puller may fit, if so i can get one local, although not to mega excited about using it.
850 Destruction - Studley Ramrod - 26-04-2019
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No flat side daps it's rounded on both, dont think it's up to pulling this rotor off anyhoo, i can get steel plate of ebay, in fact one chap will centre hole a round steel disc which would help then i would need to drill for the tension bolts, dont fancy chuckin a 3 legged puller onnit but may be best solution now.
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Biggest concern now is how to remove the broken HT bolt, not sure an extractor will remove it givin the amount of torque it broke off at, i expect i'll need to get it out as the puller becomes lopsided with only 2 bolts in, funny that as the proper Yam tool appears to only use 2 bolts.
Similar to my homemade wan. Takes a bit of thinking when working out where to drill the holes for the 3 bolts. You'd also need the centrehole threaded, or a nut welded over it, so's you can screw the big bolt inunaaat like.
It's essential that the 3 bolts are perfectly level/in parallel as if one is slightly longer the puller will pull to the side, or the bolt will snap.
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Feelin your pain bro.
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Oh and, iirc the clutch basket should GENTLY wiggle/prise/lever off.