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Is me chain fooked? - Axewound - 27-11-2006
Well, is it fooked? Is this the daylight you all refer to?
![[Image: chain.jpg]](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/marylaine/chain.jpg)
Incidentally, here's a pic of the beast
![[Image: smile.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif)
![[Image: tdm-1.jpg]](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/marylaine/tdm-1.jpg)
Is me chain fooked? - duibhceK - 27-11-2006
not necessarily f$cked, but does need immediate tensioning.
If you adjust the tension now and in 2 or 3000 km you can see daylight again, then it definitely needs replacing.
A bit hard to tell from the pic but the sprocket still seems quite alright.
Is me chain fooked? - bof69 - 27-11-2006
has it got any side play in the middle of the chain run? ie. will it move toward the wheel and away from it by more than say 1/2''.
are the sprocket teeth sharp points or worse hooked?
if either its shagged......sorry
Is me chain fooked? - andyj - 27-11-2006
Looks as knackered as the one on my winter hack. Luckily I've the replacement chain & sprockets sat in my garage waiting for the Christmas break to fit. Thank heavens for eBay. Good deals <i>do</i> come up occasionally. I think I paid £15 plus £9 p&p for a DID chain & JT sprockets!
Is me chain fooked? - Dave284 - 27-11-2006
Its knackered, get the chain and both sprockets changed.
Is the beast the bike, the car, or half a dog?
Is me chain fooked? - Axewound - 27-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23055:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 04:33 PM:name=cyco900)-->QUOTE(cyco900 @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->has it got any side play in the middle of the chain run? ie. will it move toward the wheel and away from it by more than say 1/2''.
are the sprocket teeth sharp points or worse hooked?
if either its shagged......sorry<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Teeth are not pointed, and it has got a bit of side play, but wouldn't have thought it moved 1/2", maybe 5 mm odd
<!--quoteo(post=23059:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 04:57 PM:name=Dave284)-->QUOTE(Dave284 @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->'Is the beast the bike, the car, or half a dog?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The car is certainly no beast, plus I reversed into a lampost recently
![[Image: ranting.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ranting.gif)
, so if anything it's a beast with a limp ![[Image: blink.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif)
The dog is no beast either, most people think he's a bitch - very gentle he is!
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As for the bike, I called it a beast - won't be able to do that once I got me 900
![[Image: bike-2.jpg]](http://www.slotsdirect.com/airflow/bike-2.jpg)
nah, just kidding
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Is me chain fooked? - Guest - 27-11-2006
Looks fine to me mate.
When you can pull it clear of the teeth, then its had it.
<!--quoteo(post=23054:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:59 PM:name=duibhce Kaelann)-->QUOTE(duibhce Kaelann @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->not necessarily f$cked, but does need immediate tensioning.
If you adjust the tension now and in 2 or 3000 km you can see daylight again, then it definitely needs replacing.
A bit hard to tell from the pic but the sprocket still seems quite alright.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This has nothing to do with the chain adjustment - this is checked by the amount of slack in the middle of the chain, between the Fr & R sprockets. You want about 40mm on a Mk11
To be honest, O/X-ring chains don't get to that state. without needing to be adjusted after every ride (no grease left insid ethe chian - hence frequent adjustment). When it needs adjusting after every ride, then its had it.
Is me chain fooked? - bondy - 27-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23052:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:54 PM:name=Edman)-->QUOTE(Edman @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Well, is it fooked? Is this the daylight you all refer to?
Incidentally, here's a pic of the beast
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Ed, you really should clean that bike mate.
Is me chain fooked? - cupasoop - 27-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23052:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:54 PM:name=Edman)-->QUOTE(Edman @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Whats the extra cable you have running down the fork leg?
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Is me chain fooked? - dandywarhol - 27-11-2006
Thats a generator for his pacemaker fitted to the front wheel
Is me chain fooked? - Guest - 27-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23068:date=Mon 27th Nov 2006, 07:20 PM:name=bondy)-->QUOTE(bondy @ Mon 27th Nov 2006, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ed, you really should clean that bike mate.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think he should come up here and clean mine.
![[Image: huh.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif)
Is me chain fooked? - Axewound - 28-11-2006
If I took photos of the bike, its cos I just cleaned it, having forgotten what it looked like without all the crud. Plus the local supermarket own branded furniture polish (bit like Pledge) gave some rather good looking results
- though in 2 days the effect has gone dull Extra wire is not for me pacemaker (cheers Dandy and fook off
![[Image: laugh.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif)
), but for the bike counter (top right of clocks) cos in France need to see kmh speed and dial is not accurate enought ![[Image: dash.jpg]](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/marylaine/dash.jpg)
Which throws up a quick question - if I do 100 kmh on the TDM dial, the bike counter shows a real speed of 98 kmh, while the TomTom Shitenav shows 103 kmh?? (used the recommended wheel size as calculated by Dandy in previous forum)
So question is - do Satnavs add an element of over displaying speed similar to car speedos, or is that pretty damn accurate, in which case Dandy you need a good
![[Image: punishment.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/punishment.gif)
Also, is the chain fooked or not, opinions seem to vary ?
![[Image: unsure.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif)
Cheers
Is me chain fooked? - Jez - 28-11-2006
I think the chain is on it's way out but I have known worse. When you find yourself having to adjust it more and more often then you will need a new'un pretty quick.
Even if the sprockets look ok I recommend replacing them both at the same time 'cos if they are only slightly worn they will feck the chain quick. Especially relevent if you will be splashing out on a good chain - skrimping on sprockets is false economy imho. I have some expensive DID Xring and have not adjusted it yet after 2000 miles from new.
If you only have 5mm of sideways play then this confirms my theory that there is stil some use in left it. When it goes really bad the whole chain feels rattly and loose in your hand 'cos all the grease holding capacity has gone out of it, like GuyGraham said in here.
As for lifting it off the sprockets then yes what you have shown is the daylight we talk of and some say that if there is enuff daylight to fit a pencil through then it has had it, I wouldn't wait that long though.
Great looking bike btw. Don't see many that colour down this neck of the woods.
Is me chain fooked? - dandywarhol - 28-11-2006
I'd say the chain has seen better days and run it much longer and you'll hook the sprox.
GPS seems to be as accurate as it gets I.M.H.O.
Is me chain fooked? - TonyDevil - 28-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23116:date=Tue 28th Nov 2006, 02:41 PM:name=dandywarhol)-->QUOTE(dandywarhol @ Tue 28th Nov 2006, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->GPS seems to be as accurate as it gets I.M.H.O.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
cruising at a constant speed the GPS will be VERY accurate. something silly like +/-0.01mph variance.
Is me chain fooked? - King OFF the Road - 28-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23119:date=Tue 28th Nov 2006, 03:26 PM:name=Toneski)-->QUOTE(Toneski @ Tue 28th Nov 2006, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->cruising at a constant speed the GPS will be VERY accurate. something silly like +/-0.01mph variance.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree if your speed is changing it sometimes takes the GPS a little time to catch up but when your speed is stable the GPS is about the most accurate you can be. Any lag will be more apparent if only a couple of satellites are locked on.
Is me chain fooked? - dandywarhol - 28-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23092:date=Tue 28th Nov 2006, 08:48 AM:name=Edman)-->QUOTE(Edman @ Tue 28th Nov 2006, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If I took photos of the bike, its cos I just cleaned it, having forgotten what it looked like without all the crud. Plus the local supermarket own branded furniture polish (bit like Pledge) gave some rather good looking results
- though in 2 days the effect has gone dull Extra wire is not for me pacemaker (cheers Dandy and fook off
), but for the bike counter (top right of clocks) cos in France need to see kmh speed and dial is not accurate enought Which throws up a quick question - if I do 100 kmh on the TDM dial, the bike counter shows a real speed of 98 kmh, while the TomTom Shitenav shows 103 kmh?? (used the recommended wheel size as calculated by Dandy in previous forum)
<!--coloro:#FF6666--><!--/coloro-->So question is - do Satnavs add an element of over displaying speed similar to car speedos, or is that pretty damn accurate, in which case Dandy you need a good
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Also, is the chain fooked or not, opinions seem to vary ?
Cheers<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did you allow for a worn tyre??????????????????
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Is me chain fooked? - peter-may - 28-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23136:date=Tue 28th Nov 2006, 08:23 PM:name=dandywarhol)-->QUOTE(dandywarhol @ Tue 28th Nov 2006, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Did you allow for a worn tyre??????????????????
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->whats that lookin out from the back of the garage?? if thats it's head it must be huuuuuuuge!!
![[Image: shocked.gif]](http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/shocked.gif)
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Is me chain fooked? - Peter Ertl - 28-11-2006
<!--quoteo(post=23136:date=Tue 28th Nov 2006, 08:23 PM:name=dandywarhol)-->QUOTE(dandywarhol @ Tue 28th Nov 2006, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Did you allow for a worn tyre??????????????????
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Shouldn't a worn tyre increase the apparent speed on the TDM dial and Bike counter? But I agree - the tyre size will affect the TDM dial and Bike clock, by ~2% per 5mm difference. The figures all seem pretty close to me.
I think my TDM may be over estimating, at least based on milage. I went to see my mum last Thursday - 208mlie round trip on the TDM. My wife went to see her mum on Friday - 198 mile round trip in the car. And HER mum lives a mile further past my mum!
Perhaps I'll follow Edman's example and fit a few more speedo's.
Is me chain fooked? - bondy - 28-11-2006
Edman
You need to get Paddy back to finnish yer drive.
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